Module 1 · Lesson 5 of 6

Surface finish, thread and weld symbols on engineering drawings

Read and specify surface finish symbols and Ra values, metric and UN thread callouts, and ISO 2553 or AWS weld symbols, including the fillet a versus z trap.

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After this lesson you can:

  • Identify the three basic surface texture symbols and read the Ra requirement written on them
  • Explain what changed when ISO 21920-1:2021 replaced ISO 1302:2002, including the max rule
  • Convert Ra values between micrometres, microinches and legacy N-grades
  • Read thread representation and write metric and UN thread callouts, including tapped hole depths
  • Distinguish ISO 2553 system A from system B and AWS weld symbols, and convert fillet throat a to leg z
Estimated time
15 minutes
Before you start
Lesson 4: Dimensioning and general tolerances

Three families of symbols carry a surprising amount of manufacturing cost on a drawing: surface finish symbols, thread callouts and weld symbols. A single Ra (average surface roughness) value decides whether a face is turned once or sent for grinding. A missing thread depth leaves the machinist guessing. A fillet size read the wrong way can leave a structural weld 30 % undersized.

Each family has its own standards in ISO and in US practice. The traps that catch graduates appear when a drawing crosses between European and US suppliers.

Surface finish symbols: the three basic symbols

Surface finish symbols (also searched as surface roughness symbols) are defined by ISO 21920-1:2021 in ISO practice and ASME Y14.36-2018 (R2024) in US practice. The basic symbol is a tick of two unequal legs at 60 degrees to the surface. Two modifications give three symbols with different process permissions.

The three basic surface texture symbols Three symbols standing on a surface line. The open basic symbol means any process permitted. The symbol with a closing bar means material removal required and carries an Ra 1.6 requirement. The symbol with an inscribed circle means material removal not permitted. Ra 1.6 Any process permitted (APA) Material removal required (MRR) Material removal not permitted (NMR)
Figure 1. The three basic surface texture symbols. The requirement (here Ra 1.6 µm) is written on the horizontal extension of the long leg. ISO 21920-1 symbols add a small extra bar to distinguish them from ISO 1302 symbols; it is omitted here for clarity.
SymbolMeaningTypical use
Open tickAny manufacturing process permittedCast, forged or machined, the supplier chooses
Tick with closing barMaterial removal requiredMachined bearing seats, sealing faces
Tick with inscribed circleMaterial removal not permittedLeave as cast, as rolled or as forged

The requirement text, such as Ra 1.6, sits under the horizontal line extending from the long leg. Further positions around the symbol can carry a second parameter, the manufacturing method, a lay symbol and a machining allowance. Lay is the direction of the tool marks.

What Ra means, and what it hides

Ra is the arithmetic mean deviation of the profile. To find it, trace the surface, draw the mean line, and average the absolute height of every point above or below it. It is stable and easy to measure, which is why it dominates drawings.

Ra is an average, so it cannot tell a surface of sharp peaks from one of deep valleys. A single deep scratch barely moves it. Rz, the maximum height of the profile (peak to valley), reacts to those extremes. Neither tells you the lay. For seals, bearing surfaces and fatigue-critical faces, a checker may ask for Rz or a lay direction in addition to Ra.

ISO 1302 to ISO 21920: what changed

ISO 1302:2002 has been withdrawn and replaced by ISO 21920-1:2021. At the same time ISO 21920-2:2021 replaced ISO 4287:1997 (parameter definitions) and ISO 21920-3:2021 replaced ISO 4288:1996 (specification operators). The practical changes for a designer:

TopicISO 1302 eraISO 21920
SymbolBasic tickSame three symbols plus a small extra bar that marks them as ISO 21920-1
Default acceptance16 % rule: up to 16 % of measured values may exceed the limitMax rule: no measured value may exceed the limit
Parameter definitionsISO 4287ISO 21920-2
Measurement defaultsISO 4288ISO 21920-3

The new acceptance rule makes the same number tighter. An old “Ra 1.6” tolerated a few high readings; a new one does not. Keep that in mind when you revise a legacy part to the new standard.

Older drawings: N-grades and microinches

Older drawings may use roughness grade numbers from the obsolete 1992 edition of ISO 1302. US drawings to ASME Y14.36 with ASME B46.1-2019 definitions state Ra in microinches (µin). The conversion is 1 µm = 39.37 µin.

N-grade (older drawings)Ra (µm)Ra (µin), exactUsual US value (µin)
N50.415.716
N60.831.532
N71.663.063
N83.2126125
N96.3248250
N1012.5492500
N11259841000
N125019692000

Default surface texture and what processes achieve

Most faces share one finish, so drawings state a default in or near the title block. A typical default is the material removal symbol with Ra 3.2, followed by the basic symbol in brackets. The bracketed symbol means “all other surfaces”: only the faces that differ carry their own symbol on the views.

Machining handbooks quote these typical ranges. They are guidance only, not a standard, and tooling, material and feed move them a lot:

ProcessTypical Ra (µm)
Turning0.8 to 3.2
Milling1.6 to 6.3
Grinding0.1 to 1.6

On the job

A common graduate habit is putting Ra 0.4 on every machined face “to be safe”. It adds cost without adding safety. Below roughly Ra 0.8, most turned or milled faces need an extra grinding or finishing operation and a profilometer check. Set a sensible default such as Ra 3.2 and tighten only the faces with a function, such as seal grooves, bearing seats and sliding faces. Expect a checker to ask “why?” for any value below the default.

How to draw and write a thread callout

Threads are never drawn as helices. ISO 6410-1:1993 and ASME Y14.6-2001 (R2025) use a simplified convention: the crest is a continuous wide line and the root a continuous narrow line. The crest is the major diameter on an external thread and the minor diameter on an internal thread. The wide and narrow lines therefore swap places between a bolt and a tapped hole.

External and internal thread representation Top row: an external thread in side view, with wide crest lines at the major diameter and narrow root lines. Its end view has a three-quarter narrow root arc. Bottom row: a tapped blind hole in section with hatching to the minor diameter, a thread limit line and drill point, and its end view. External thread Internal thread (tapped blind hole), section Wide: crests, thread limit Narrow: roots, hatching Bolt: crest = major Ø Hole: crest = minor Ø End view: root arc about 3/4 of a circle, open upper right; chamfer circle omitted Hatching runs to the crest (minor Ø) line
Figure 2. Thread representation to ISO 6410-1 with wide (2) and narrow (1) lines. The thread limit is a wide line; the drill continues beyond it to the 118 degree drill point.

In the end view the root is drawn as a narrow arc of about three quarters of a circle, preferably open in the upper right quadrant. The chamfer circle is omitted. In a section the hatching (US: section lining) extends to the crest line, which for a tapped hole is the minor diameter.

Metric thread callouts

A metric thread callout to ISO 965-1:2026 gives the letter M, nominal diameter, pitch and tolerance class:

CalloutReads as
M10x1.5-6HInternal thread, 10 mm, 1.5 mm pitch, tolerance class 6H
M10x1.5-6gExternal thread, same size, class 6g
M10-6gCoarse pitch may be omitted, so this is the same as M10x1.5-6g
M10x1.25-6HFine pitch, so the pitch must be stated

The tolerance class is a grade number followed by a position letter: capitals for internal threads, lower case for external.

For a tapped blind hole, state both depths: the full thread depth, and the tap drill diameter and depth. For example: “M8-6H, thread depth 16, drill Ø6.8 depth 20”. The drill must go deeper than the thread so the tap has room for its lead-in and the chips have somewhere to go. Check that the engagement is enough with the thread engagement length calculator, and set the tightening torque with the bolt torque and preload calculator.

Unified inch thread callouts

Under ASME B1.1-2024, 1/2-13 UNC-2A reads as nominal size 1/2 in, 13 threads per inch, Unified coarse series, class 2, with A for external. The mating tapped hole is 1/2-13 UNC-2B. Classes run 1, 2 and 3, from loosest to tightest.

On the job

The most common machine shop query on tapped holes is “which depth is the thread?” A callout of “M8 x 20 deep” does not say whether 20 mm is full thread or drill depth. In a blind hole in a thin boss, the difference can mean breaking through the far wall. Always give thread depth and drill depth separately, and check the drill depth against the wall thickness. Make sure the thread depth leaves room for the bolt’s own thread run-out.

Weld symbols: ISO 2553 system A, system B and AWS

Weld symbols are governed by ISO 2553:2019 in ISO practice and AWS A2.4:2020 in US practice. ISO 2553 offers two systems, and a drawing must use one only; never mix them.

FeatureISO 2553 system AISO 2553 system B and AWS A2.4
Reference lineContinuous line plus a dashed identification lineSingle continuous line
Arrow side weldSymbol on the continuous lineSymbol below the line
Other side weldSymbol on the dashed lineSymbol above the line
Symmetrical weldDashed line omittedSymbols on both sides
Fillet sizea (throat) or z (leg), prefixedAWS: leg size

System A is the long-standing European practice; system B follows the single-line Pacific Rim and US style. A tail at the end of the reference line carries the welding process, a specification or other reference.

Fillet weld symbols in ISO system A and AWS, with throat and leg Top row: an ISO 2553 system A fillet on the arrow side, with the symbol on the continuous line. Next, the same on the other side, with the symbol on the dashed line. Then the AWS arrow side fillet below a single reference line. Bottom: a fillet weld cross-section showing throat a perpendicular to the face and leg z. a5 a5 8 ISO A: arrow side ISO A: other side AWS: arrow side on continuous line on dashed line below line, leg 8 mm a z Equal-leg 90° fillet: z = a × √2 a5 gives z ≈ 7.1 mm
Figure 3. Top: the same fillet weld in ISO 2553 system A (arrow side, other side) and AWS A2.4 (arrow side). Bottom: throat a is measured perpendicular to the weld face; leg z runs along the fusion face.

Fillet size: a versus z

ISO drawings state fillet size as a, the throat thickness, or z, the leg length, with the letter written before the number. For an equal-leg 90 degree fillet the throat is the height of an isosceles right triangle, so

z=a2,a=z2z = a\sqrt{2}, \qquad a = \frac{z}{\sqrt{2}}

An a5 fillet therefore has a leg of z=52≈7.1z = 5\sqrt{2} \approx 7.1 mm. AWS A2.4:2020 states fillet size as the leg, with no prefix letter.

Worked example: modernising a legacy drawing for a US supplier

An old European bracket drawing carries three callouts: “N7” on a bearing face, “a5” on a fillet weld and “M8” on four tapped holes. The part is being revised and sent to a US fabricator.

Legacy calloutStepModern callout
N7N7 = Ra 1.6 µm; 1.6×39.37=63.01.6 \times 39.37 = 63.0 µinMaterial removal symbol with Ra 1.6 (ISO 21920-1), or 63 µin on an ASME drawing
a5 filletz=52=7.07z = 5\sqrt{2} = 7.07 mm leg. Round up to a practical size: 8 mm, or 5/16 in (7.94 mm)AWS fillet symbol with leg 8 (or 5/16), or keep “a5” and add “z7.1 min” if ISO
M8Coarse pitch 1.25 mm, omitted in the callout; add the class and depthsM8-6H, thread depth 16, drill Ø6.8 depth 20

Two points to note. First, under ISO 21920-1 the Ra 1.6 now follows the max rule, so every reading must be at or below 1.6 µm. Check the face was actually made that way before re-releasing. Second, rounding the leg down to 7 mm would give a throat of a=7/2=4.95a = 7/\sqrt{2} = 4.95 mm. That is just under the a5 requirement, so round up. The drill of 6.8 mm is the usual nominal diameter minus pitch (8 minus 1.25).

On the job

The a versus z mix-up is a classic cross-border weld defect. A European “a5” read by a US welder as a 5 mm leg gives a throat of only 3.5 mm, about 30 % undersized. The part may pass visual inspection because it matches the drawing as they read it. The reverse, a US leg size read as throat, oversizes the weld by about 40 % and adds heat distortion. Always write the prefix letter, and state which weld symbol system the drawing uses in the notes.

Surface finish, threads and welds sit alongside the dimensions and general tolerances from lesson 4. The final lesson, how to read an engineering drawing, puts every symbol from this module together on one annotated drawing.

Check your understanding

5 questions. Choose an answer, then check it. Nothing is saved.

  1. Question 1 of 5A surface texture symbol has a horizontal bar closing the short leg into a triangle, with Ra 1.6 written under the extension line. What does it require?
  2. Question 2 of 5An old drawing specifies N8. What is the modern equivalent and its approximate US value?
  3. Question 3 of 5In the metric callout M10x1.5-6g, what does 6g tell you?
  4. Question 4 of 5On an ISO 2553 system A weld symbol, the fillet symbol sits on the dashed identification line. Where is the weld?
  5. Question 5 of 5A European drawing calls for an a5 fillet. A US fabricator reads it as a 5 mm leg. What happens?

Key terms

Ra
Arithmetic mean deviation of the assessed profile: the average height of the surface profile above and below its mean line, in micrometres (or microinches in US practice).
Rz
Maximum height of the profile, the peak to valley height, which reacts to isolated scratches and peaks that Ra averages away.
Max rule
Acceptance rule under which no measured value may exceed the specified limit. It is the default in ISO 21920-1:2021, replacing the older 16 % rule.
Thread crest
The outermost surface of a thread form: the major diameter on an external thread and the minor diameter on an internal thread. Drawn as a continuous wide line.
Tolerance class (threads)
A tolerance grade number plus a position letter, for example 6g for an external metric thread or 6H for an internal one.
Throat thickness a
The height of the largest triangle that can be inscribed in a fillet weld section, measured from the root to the weld face. Used as the fillet size in European ISO practice.
Leg length z
The distance from the joint root to the toe of a fillet weld along one fusion face. For an equal-leg 90 degree fillet, z = a x sqrt 2. AWS fillet sizes are legs.

Standards referenced

StandardEditionTitleUsed here for
ISO 21920-12021Geometrical product specifications (GPS), Surface texture: Profile, Part 1: Indication of surface textureSurface texture symbols, requirement indication and the default max rule
ISO 21920-22021GPS, Surface texture: Profile, Part 2: Terms, definitions and surface texture parametersDefinitions of Ra, Rz and other profile parameters (replaces ISO 4287)
ISO 21920-32021GPS, Surface texture: Profile, Part 3: Specification operatorsDefault measurement conditions (replaces ISO 4288)
ISO 13022002 (withdrawn)Indication of surface texture in technical product documentationLegacy symbols still found on existing drawings; replaced by ISO 21920-1
ISO 42871997 (withdrawn)GPS, Surface texture: Profile method, Terms, definitions and surface texture parametersLegacy parameter definitions; replaced by ISO 21920-2
ISO 42881996 (withdrawn)GPS, Surface texture: Profile method, Rules and procedures for the assessment of surface textureLegacy assessment rules including the 16 % rule; replaced by ISO 21920-3
ASME Y14.362018 (R2024)Surface Texture SymbolsUS surface texture symbols
ASME B46.12019Surface Texture (Surface Roughness, Waviness, and Lay)US definitions and measurement of surface texture parameters
ISO 6410-11993Technical drawings, Screw threads and threaded parts, Part 1: General conventionsThread representation: crest and root lines, end views, hatching
ISO 965-12026ISO general purpose metric screw threads, Tolerances, Part 1: Principles and basic dataMetric thread tolerance classes such as 6H and 6g
ASME Y14.62001 (R2025)Screw Thread RepresentationUS thread representation and callout practice
ASME B1.12024Unified Inch Screw Threads (UN, UNR, and UNJ Thread Forms)UN thread designation, series and classes 1A to 3A, 1B to 3B
ISO 25532019Welding and allied processes, Symbolic representation on drawings, Welded jointsWeld symbols, system A and system B, fillet a and z dimensions
AWS A2.42020Standard Symbols for Welding, Brazing, and Nondestructive ExaminationUS weld symbols; fillet size given as leg

Editions checked on 29 Sep 2026. Standards are copyright documents; this lesson explains and paraphrases them. Buy or borrow the current edition before relying on a value.